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Cruiser, 900 credits, moves 3, range 1-3

hard:10
soft:10
[b]sub:4[/b]
boat:10
amphibic:12
[b]air:6[/b]
speedboat:12

Destroyer, 900 credits, moves 4, range 1-3

[b]hard:6[/b]
[b]soft:6[/b]
sub:16
[b]boat:6[/b]
amphibic:12
air:12
speedboat:12

The current version of the destroyer:

hard:10
soft:10
sub:16
boat:10
amphibic:12
air:12
speedboat:12

Helicopter:

hard:10
soft:16
[b]sub:4[/b] (up from 0)
boat:8
amphibic:12
air:6
speedboat:12

Tank:

[b]hard:8[/b] (up from 7)
soft:10
sub:0
boat:7
amphibic:7
air:0
speedboat:7

Berserker

[b]Repairs: 2[/b] (up from 1)]]> http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/12911.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/12911.page GMT http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/12914.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/12914.page GMT http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/12915.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/12915.page GMT http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/12917.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/12917.page GMT
(side note: weakening them a little bit vs land units would be nice as well)

@boodog, minor note - please edit your previous post rather than double post in the future.]]> http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/12918.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/12918.page GMT http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/12920.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/12920.page GMT http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/12926.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/12926.page GMT http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/12928.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/12928.page GMT http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/12940.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/12940.page GMT http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/12946.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/12946.page GMT http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/12959.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/12959.page GMT [img]http://z.about.com/d/inventors/1/5/e/9/depthcharge2.jpg[/img]
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I'm working on a game right now. I'll let you know in a day or two the outcome and observations.]]> http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13011.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13011.page GMT http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13025.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13025.page GMT
Right now it's a weakened version of the current destroyer, which no advantages to offset its loss vs. subs/air.


Also, I'd like to reiterate for like the 5000th time that BS's need to either come down in price. They're weakened too much to still be 2000 credits.]]> http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13028.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13028.page GMT http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13029.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13029.page GMT "Also, I'd like to reiterate for like the 5000th time that BS's need to either come down in price."

The word either usually precludes a condition of the keyword or... I must have missed something

]]> http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13036.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13036.page GMT http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13037.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13037.page GMT http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13038.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13038.page GMT
The word either usually precludes a condition of the keyword or... I must have missed something

[/quote]

predicates, surely? ]]> http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13039.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13039.page GMT http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13041.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13041.page GMT http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13045.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13045.page GMT http://test.weewar.com/game/154

There has been a good mix of naval units so far in that game. I'm still getting used to them and have definitely confused one for the other more than once. We haven't tried air units probably because they are so easily shot down on that map.

My assessment so far:

Cruisers do too little damage to destroyers and battleships for my liking (against destroyers: about 2-3 damage, while taking about 1-2 damage in return; against BBs: about 2 damage, while taking about 5 in return). Doesn't feel too anti-boat to me.

It is difficult to get close to a battleship to deal damage to it unless you swarm it with units and rack up the bonuses, but rarely are battleships in such an open position for that to be possible. So battleships are pretty strong, perhaps too strong (see Stirling's post: http://weewar.com/forum/posts/list/788.page#12919 ), especially since a cruiser - the anti-boat unit - needs to start in range of a stationary battleship before it can attack it, and even then, the damage dealt by the cruiser does not appear to be worth the attack.

Destroyers are pretty strong against air (5-6 damage), but they are easily countered by cruisers and BBs, so I think that's ok.


I agree with jeye's suggestion here: http://weewar.com/forum/posts/list/30/788.page#12955 (increase cruiser attack vs boat to 14 or 15)]]> http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13052.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13052.page GMT http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13083.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13083.page GMT My assessment so far:

Cruisers do too little damage to destroyers and battleships for my liking (against destroyers: about 2-3 damage, while taking about 1-2 damage in return; against BBs: about 2 damage, while taking about 5 in return). Doesn't feel too anti-boat to me.

It is difficult to get close to a battleship to deal damage to it unless you swarm it with units and rack up the bonuses, but rarely are battleships in such an open position for that to be possible. [/quote]


I agree completely. Cruisers just don't pack enough punch to make it a worth while investment. It is too easy to setup a defense against them and then crush them while taking little damage. ]]> http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13085.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13085.page GMT http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13414.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13414.page GMT I attacked a cruiser with a sub (at the range of 2) and it fought back! Is that a bug or a feature?

+1 to all those comments about cruiser being too weak. How about increasing its movement to 4 and as well as attack against boat a little bit?]]> http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13437.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13437.page GMT
The games played on the testserver will come back once we put the next set of new features on the testserver.

Thanks again for playing on the testserver. This helps a lot making Weewar a better game.]]> http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13439.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13439.page GMT http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13450.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13450.page GMT
BUT

when battleships (especially if it's more than 1) join the fight, the main disadvantage of cruisers becomes apparent - their little too weak attack power against BOATS. I think if 2 cruisers would attack a battleship in the same turn, it should be sunk or almost sunk by the second cruiser's fire.

Probably the situation on testserver was like this:
cruiser 1 fires on battleship, damaging ~3hps, cruiser taking ~7 damage.
cruiser 2 fires on battleship, damaging ~4hps, cruiser taking ~6 damage.
(I`m not 100% sure about these numbers, what results did you guys get on testserver?)

If cruisers did 1-2 more damage to battleships it would not affect their superiority to destroyers very much, but 2 cruisers worth 2000 credits would be able to fight the 2000 creds battleship as long as it is the cuisers' turn. if it was the battleship's turn still they would be annihilated by it's longer firing range and double shoot ability.

Conclusion: A little higher BOAT attack value for cruisers (or lower defense value for battleships) would render them more valuable in late stages of high income games and prevent players to build battleships accompanied by destroyers only as their navy.]]> http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13471.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13471.page GMT http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13496.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13496.page GMT http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13514.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13514.page GMT Probably the situation on testserver was like this:
cruiser 1 fires on battleship, damaging ~3hps, cruiser taking ~7 damage.
cruiser 2 fires on battleship, damaging ~4hps, cruiser taking ~6 damage.
(I`m not 100% sure about these numbers, what results did you guys get on testserver?)
[/quote]

According to the combat system if cruiser 1 attacks battleship it should deal about 2.5 damage, cruiser 2 about 3 damage. While the first cruiser should take about 5.5 damage and the second one about 4. I also think the cruiser could need a stronger boat attack. So they would also be more effective against destroyers.]]> http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13528.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13528.page GMT
Yes, every team member selects surrender!

You all lose/gain points in a uniform fashion so theoretically I don't think it really matters in what order you surrender.]]> http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13543.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13543.page GMT
The Penguin is the most powerful unit in WeeWar. It derives it's power from the dark heart of evil which beats in its chest.

Type: Amphibic
Cost: 6,666,666,666 credits
Movement Points: 12,000
Attack Range: 6-6
Defense: 666
Repair: 6/turn

Soft: 666
Hard: 666
Air: 666
Speedboat: 666
Amphibic: 666
Sub: 666
Boat: 666


I would like to see this implemented immediately. Thanks guys! ]]> http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13554.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/13554.page GMT gg]]> http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/15020.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/15020.page GMT http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/15021.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/15021.page GMT http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/15056.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/15056.page GMT http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/15074.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/15074.page GMT

I really feel weewar has massive potential to the world - im supprised there are not more people.

How much is the site advertised?]]> http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/15277.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/15277.page GMT ]]> http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/15287.page http://weewar.com/forum/posts/preList/789/15287.page GMT