Weewar Forum

**Muzzafar** · This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 02/06/2009 14:46:49

Are cruisers supposed to hurt subs at the range of 2 (in the same way as destroyers)?!
I attacked a cruiser with a sub (at the range of 2) and it fought back! Is that a bug or a feature?

+1 to all those comments about cruiser being too weak. How about increasing its movement to 4 and as well as attack against boat a little bit?

**bert**

The testserver will be offline for the next days. We've received lots of really good feedback. Thank you all for testing the latest features. Teamplay is now available on the liveserver. (Yay!)

The games played on the testserver will come back once we put the next set of new features on the testserver.

Thanks again for playing on the testserver. This helps a lot making Weewar a better game.

**luckymustard**

any hint at what the next features might be? tx for teams, btw!

**Casaubon**

I think the cruiser is strong enough as long as no battleships are involved. Cruisers killing destroyers, destroyers killing subs, subs killing cruisers. The rock-paper-scissors principle works fine here and the cruisers speed of 3 fills a hole in the navy movement range. I like that and would suggest to not change the move issue.

BUT

when battleships (especially if it's more than 1) join the fight, the main disadvantage of cruisers becomes apparent - their little too weak attack power against BOATS. I think if 2 cruisers would attack a battleship in the same turn, it should be sunk or almost sunk by the second cruiser's fire.

Probably the situation on testserver was like this:
cruiser 1 fires on battleship, damaging ~3hps, cruiser taking ~7 damage.
cruiser 2 fires on battleship, damaging ~4hps, cruiser taking ~6 damage.
(I`m not 100% sure about these numbers, what results did you guys get on testserver?)

If cruisers did 1-2 more damage to battleships it would not affect their superiority to destroyers very much, but 2 cruisers worth 2000 credits would be able to fight the 2000 creds battleship as long as it is the cuisers' turn. if it was the battleship's turn still they would be annihilated by it's longer firing range and double shoot ability.

Conclusion: A little higher BOAT attack value for cruisers (or lower defense value for battleships) would render them more valuable in late stages of high income games and prevent players to build battleships accompanied by destroyers only as their navy.

**ShadowPanther**

^^What he said.

**boodog314**

Is there a team surrender option?

**jeye** · This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 05/06/2009 04:45:02

Casaubon wrote:
Probably the situation on testserver was like this:
cruiser 1 fires on battleship, damaging ~3hps, cruiser taking ~7 damage.
cruiser 2 fires on battleship, damaging ~4hps, cruiser taking ~6 damage.
(I`m not 100% sure about these numbers, what results did you guys get on testserver?)

According to the combat system if cruiser 1 attacks battleship it should deal about 2.5 damage, cruiser 2 about 3 damage. While the first cruiser should take about 5.5 damage and the second one about 4. I also think the cruiser could need a stronger boat attack. So they would also be more effective against destroyers.

**Darkbee** · This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 05/06/2009 12:36:21

boodog314 wrote:Is there a team surrender option?

Yes, every team member selects surrender!

You all lose/gain points in a uniform fashion so theoretically I don't think it really matters in what order you surrender.

**penguintine**

I don't like the new naval units. Though, I do think you should add a Penguin unit. Here are the stats:

The Penguin is the most powerful unit in WeeWar. It derives it's power from the dark heart of evil which beats in its chest.

Type: Amphibic
Cost: 6,666,666,666 credits
Movement Points: 12,000
Attack Range: 6-6
Defense: 666
Repair: 6/turn

Soft: 666
Hard: 666
Air: 666
Speedboat: 666
Amphibic: 666
Sub: 666
Boat: 666

I would like to see this implemented immediately. Thanks guys!

**Casaubon**

did anybody make screenshots on the testserver? I´d need the new graphics for cruiser and new destroyer seen on the test server for my weewar museum
gg

**Daphron**

That unit should also take up 66 tiles.

**Tygerdave**

Cas - http://weewartimes.com/2009/05/07/teamplay-and-new-units/

**Casaubon**

great tygerdave! thank you very much

**Nature_God**

who created that site? Looks good

I really feel weewar has massive potential to the world - im supprised there are not more people.

How much is the site advertised?

**Tygerdave**

The WeeWar Times is mine if that's what you're asking about

02/06/2009 14:46:21 Re:Test the latest features on the testserver
Muzzafar Raider Offline	Are cruisers supposed to hurt subs at the range of 2 (in the same way as destroyers)?! I attacked a cruiser with a sub (at the range of 2) and it fought back! Is that a bug or a feature? +1 to all those comments about cruiser being too weak. How about increasing its movement to 4 and as well as attack against boat a little bit? This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 02/06/2009 14:46:49
02/06/2009 17:07:02 Re:Test the latest features on the testserver
bert Staff Offline	The testserver will be offline for the next days. We've received lots of really good feedback. Thank you all for testing the latest features. Teamplay is now available on the liveserver. (Yay!) The games played on the testserver will come back once we put the next set of new features on the testserver. Thanks again for playing on the testserver. This helps a lot making Weewar a better game.
02/06/2009 22:49:11 Re:Test the latest features on the testserver
luckymustard Raider Offline	any hint at what the next features might be? tx for teams, btw!
03/06/2009 12:51:47 Re:Test the latest features on the testserver
Casaubon Tank Offline	I think the cruiser is strong enough as long as no battleships are involved. Cruisers killing destroyers, destroyers killing subs, subs killing cruisers. The rock-paper-scissors principle works fine here and the cruisers speed of 3 fills a hole in the navy movement range. I like that and would suggest to not change the move issue. BUT when battleships (especially if it's more than 1) join the fight, the main disadvantage of cruisers becomes apparent - their little too weak attack power against BOATS. I think if 2 cruisers would attack a battleship in the same turn, it should be sunk or almost sunk by the second cruiser's fire. Probably the situation on testserver was like this: cruiser 1 fires on battleship, damaging ~3hps, cruiser taking ~7 damage. cruiser 2 fires on battleship, damaging ~4hps, cruiser taking ~6 damage. (I`m not 100% sure about these numbers, what results did you guys get on testserver?) If cruisers did 1-2 more damage to battleships it would not affect their superiority to destroyers very much, but 2 cruisers worth 2000 credits would be able to fight the 2000 creds battleship as long as it is the cuisers' turn. if it was the battleship's turn still they would be annihilated by it's longer firing range and double shoot ability. Conclusion: A little higher BOAT attack value for cruisers (or lower defense value for battleships) would render them more valuable in late stages of high income games and prevent players to build battleships accompanied by destroyers only as their navy.
04/06/2009 01:03:33 Re:Test the latest features on the testserver
ShadowPanther Tank Offline	^^What he said.
04/06/2009 16:41:48 Re:Test the latest features on the testserver
boodog314 Raider Offline	Is there a team surrender option?
05/06/2009 04:44:32 Re:Test the latest features on the testserver
jeye Tank Offline	Casaubon wrote: Probably the situation on testserver was like this: cruiser 1 fires on battleship, damaging ~3hps, cruiser taking ~7 damage. cruiser 2 fires on battleship, damaging ~4hps, cruiser taking ~6 damage. (I`m not 100% sure about these numbers, what results did you guys get on testserver?) According to the combat system if cruiser 1 attacks battleship it should deal about 2.5 damage, cruiser 2 about 3 damage. While the first cruiser should take about 5.5 damage and the second one about 4. I also think the cruiser could need a stronger boat attack. So they would also be more effective against destroyers. This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 05/06/2009 04:45:02
05/06/2009 12:36:16 Re:Test the latest features on the testserver
Darkbee Berserker Offline	boodog314 wrote:Is there a team surrender option? Yes, every team member selects surrender! You all lose/gain points in a uniform fashion so theoretically I don't think it really matters in what order you surrender. This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 05/06/2009 12:36:21
05/06/2009 16:07:06 Re:Test the latest features on the testserver
penguintine Heavy Trooper Offline	I don't like the new naval units. Though, I do think you should add a Penguin unit. Here are the stats: The Penguin is the most powerful unit in WeeWar. It derives it's power from the dark heart of evil which beats in its chest. Type: Amphibic Cost: 6,666,666,666 credits Movement Points: 12,000 Attack Range: 6-6 Defense: 666 Repair: 6/turn Soft: 666 Hard: 666 Air: 666 Speedboat: 666 Amphibic: 666 Sub: 666 Boat: 666 I would like to see this implemented immediately. Thanks guys!
22/07/2009 15:37:24 Re:Test the latest features on the testserver
Casaubon Tank Offline	did anybody make screenshots on the testserver? I´d need the new graphics for cruiser and new destroyer seen on the test server for my weewar museum gg
22/07/2009 16:00:24 Re:Test the latest features on the testserver
Daphron Raider Offline	That unit should also take up 66 tiles.
23/07/2009 01:56:27 Re:Test the latest features on the testserver
Tygerdave Tank Online	Cas - http://weewartimes.com/2009/05/07/teamplay-and-new-units/
23/07/2009 10:01:41 Re:Test the latest features on the testserver
Casaubon Tank Offline	great tygerdave! thank you very much
30/07/2009 18:44:08 Re:Test the latest features on the testserver
Nature_God Tank Offline	who created that site? Looks good I really feel weewar has massive potential to the world - im supprised there are not more people. How much is the site advertised?
31/07/2009 01:44:03 Re:Test the latest features on the testserver
Tygerdave Tank Online	The WeeWar Times is mine if that's what you're asking about