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**ShadowPanther** · This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 08/06/2008 04:40:31

StephenHarper wrote:P.S. If I change my user name, will this annul the Stephenharper greylisting - or will the list modify itself to my new name?

You're trying to cheat the system now?

**Kai01**

A man walks into a store, steals something and walks away. A security camera captures everything. Police watch the camera, catch the man and hold him in custody. A week later the tape is accidentally destroyed. Since there is no more evidence, the man should obviously go free [/sarcasm].

F1r57 p0st

**BM5k**

Pistos, don't waste your time on this guy. He's too busy complaining about his greylist status to be willing to do anything about it. It isn't up to you to prove your prior decision, and quite frankly I'm much less inclined to sympathize with him because of his attitude.

And if a player with a bad attitude doesn't want to play WWPA members, well that's what I joined the WWPA for anyway.

Keep up the good work & thanks for providing a (free) service to the Weewar community.

**Lucian**

I hope stinkypants isn't a WWPA member as his profile suggests. If he is, I believe this would be a very good reason to boot him.

**kersplat**

Wow, that was incredible. Definitely looks like unfriendly kicking to me and not WWPA behavior.

**BM5k** · This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 16/06/2008 02:52:55

Lucian wrote:I hope stinkypants isn't a WWPA member as his profile suggests. If he is, I believe this would be a very good reason to boot him.

kersplat wrote:Wow, that was incredible. Definitely looks like unfriendly kicking to me and not WWPA behavior.

Yup. I already sent an email requesting he be added to the WWPA Greylist.
I also have a couple ideas about how to limit this kind of behavior: here's one.

**Pistos**

As per the presented evidence, stinkypants has been greylisted.

To be clear: Uncertified members or members with low certification should be considered equivalent to non-members as far as trustworthiness goes regarding the WWPA code of conduct.

**Lucian**

So what counts as low certification?

**BM5k**

And is low cert better or worse than uncertified? I'm currently uncertified, but not quite sure what I can do to change that, other than contine to play by the guidelines (btw they are all pretty much common sense/good sportsmanship anyway) and hope another member certifies me?

Also, there doesn't appear to be anwyay to leave negative feedback for users, other than removing your certification, if you'd previously certified them.

**Lucian**

I'd say Certified > Low Certified > Uncertified/Non-member > Gray listed.

Always follow the guidelines and play certified members. Once you play with one who believes you adhere to the conduct they have the right to certify you.

As for removals, keep all evidence and get the member gray listed. Pistos can then remove their certification as well if necessary.

**BM5k** · This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 16/06/2008 05:15:29

Lucian wrote:I'd say Certified > Low Certified > Uncertified/Non-member > Gray listed.

Lucian wrote:Once you play with one who believes you adhere to the conduct they have the right to certify you.

Which means that if you're a member, and play with someone you feel follows the guidelines you should certify them, even if they haven't registered with the WWPA yet.

**BM5k**

Another question, Pistos, how often are the certification (points?) updated? Does this happen in real time?

**Lucian**

You can only certify members of the WWPA. If you feel someone you know and played with deserves to be certified you tell them to join. I mean its not just something you do with EVERYONE, but if you notice in a game that they follow the WWPA rules then certify them. If they haven't joined the WWPA they either don't know or don't care. You don't HAVE TO certify anyone as a member. It is just your right to let others know that your opponent is fair.

As for certifications they appear to be update live... or just very very quickly.

**BM5k**

I'd like to suggest putting [WWPA] in the game name to let people know you expect them to follow the guidlines (Thanks for the idea, Lucian!)

**Lucian** · This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 16/06/2008 07:14:47

Hmm.. good idea. I just failed at being creative with names and went with something in relation to what made me start that game in the first place, but nice pick. Simple codes that let others know what you're trying to do.

[WWPA] - Follow WWPA Guidelines
[TRNM] - Tourney game where kicking will happen if over time

Tags like that would actually be very useful. I guess you could extend it to other things such as:

[FFA] - Free For All
[2PT] - Two Player Teams
[3PT] - Three Player Teams

A map name is sometimes a pain in the ass to come up with and you could effectively be very informative via the game title alone. The other thing is that when you have 10 games going (particularly if with the same players) its easy to mistake which one has what type of rules so this could definitelly benefit in such a scenario.

08/06/2008 04:40:18 Re:Weewar Players Association
ShadowPanther Tank Offline	StephenHarper wrote:P.S. If I change my user name, will this annul the Stephenharper greylisting - or will the list modify itself to my new name? You're trying to cheat the system now? This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 08/06/2008 04:40:31
15/06/2008 08:41:58 Re:Weewar Players Association
Kai01 Trooper Offline	A man walks into a store, steals something and walks away. A security camera captures everything. Police watch the camera, catch the man and hold him in custody. A week later the tape is accidentally destroyed. Since there is no more evidence, the man should obviously go free [/sarcasm]. F1r57 p0st
15/06/2008 14:23:42 Re:Weewar Players Association
BM5k Raider Offline	Pistos, don't waste your time on this guy. He's too busy complaining about his greylist status to be willing to do anything about it. It isn't up to you to prove your prior decision, and quite frankly I'm much less inclined to sympathize with him because of his attitude. And if a player with a bad attitude doesn't want to play WWPA members, well that's what I joined the WWPA for anyway. Keep up the good work & thanks for providing a (free) service to the Weewar community.
16/06/2008 00:56:54 Re:Weewar Players Association
Lucian Berserker Offline	I hope stinkypants isn't a WWPA member as his profile suggests. If he is, I believe this would be a very good reason to boot him.
16/06/2008 01:16:32 Re:Weewar Players Association
kersplat Raider Offline	Wow, that was incredible. Definitely looks like unfriendly kicking to me and not WWPA behavior.
16/06/2008 02:52:32 Re:Weewar Players Association
BM5k Raider Offline	Lucian wrote:I hope stinkypants isn't a WWPA member as his profile suggests. If he is, I believe this would be a very good reason to boot him. kersplat wrote:Wow, that was incredible. Definitely looks like unfriendly kicking to me and not WWPA behavior. Yup. I already sent an email requesting he be added to the WWPA Greylist. I also have a couple ideas about how to limit this kind of behavior: here's one. This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 16/06/2008 02:52:55
16/06/2008 04:06:25 Re:Weewar Players Association
Pistos Raider Offline	As per the presented evidence, stinkypants has been greylisted. To be clear: Uncertified members or members with low certification should be considered equivalent to non-members as far as trustworthiness goes regarding the WWPA code of conduct.
16/06/2008 04:32:56 Re:Weewar Players Association
Lucian Berserker Offline	So what counts as low certification?
16/06/2008 04:47:35 Re:Weewar Players Association
BM5k Raider Offline	And is low cert better or worse than uncertified? I'm currently uncertified, but not quite sure what I can do to change that, other than contine to play by the guidelines (btw they are all pretty much common sense/good sportsmanship anyway) and hope another member certifies me? Also, there doesn't appear to be anwyay to leave negative feedback for users, other than removing your certification, if you'd previously certified them.
16/06/2008 04:54:43 Re:Weewar Players Association
Lucian Berserker Offline	I'd say Certified > Low Certified > Uncertified/Non-member > Gray listed. Always follow the guidelines and play certified members. Once you play with one who believes you adhere to the conduct they have the right to certify you. As for removals, keep all evidence and get the member gray listed. Pistos can then remove their certification as well if necessary.
16/06/2008 05:14:40 Re:Weewar Players Association
BM5k Raider Offline	Lucian wrote:I'd say Certified > Low Certified > Uncertified/Non-member > Gray listed. Lucian wrote:Once you play with one who believes you adhere to the conduct they have the right to certify you. Which means that if you're a member, and play with someone you feel follows the guidelines you should certify them, even if they haven't registered with the WWPA yet. This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 16/06/2008 05:15:29
16/06/2008 05:20:13 Re:Weewar Players Association
BM5k Raider Offline	Another question, Pistos, how often are the certification (points?) updated? Does this happen in real time?
16/06/2008 05:44:41 Re:Weewar Players Association
Lucian Berserker Offline	You can only certify members of the WWPA. If you feel someone you know and played with deserves to be certified you tell them to join. I mean its not just something you do with EVERYONE, but if you notice in a game that they follow the WWPA rules then certify them. If they haven't joined the WWPA they either don't know or don't care. You don't HAVE TO certify anyone as a member. It is just your right to let others know that your opponent is fair. As for certifications they appear to be update live... or just very very quickly.
16/06/2008 06:01:49 Re:Weewar Players Association
BM5k Raider Offline	I'd like to suggest putting [WWPA] in the game name to let people know you expect them to follow the guidlines (Thanks for the idea, Lucian!)
16/06/2008 06:09:13 Re:Weewar Players Association
Lucian Berserker Offline	Hmm.. good idea. I just failed at being creative with names and went with something in relation to what made me start that game in the first place, but nice pick. Simple codes that let others know what you're trying to do. [WWPA] - Follow WWPA Guidelines [TRNM] - Tourney game where kicking will happen if over time Tags like that would actually be very useful. I guess you could extend it to other things such as: [FFA] - Free For All [2PT] - Two Player Teams [3PT] - Three Player Teams A map name is sometimes a pain in the ass to come up with and you could effectively be very informative via the game title alone. The other thing is that when you have 10 games going (particularly if with the same players) its easy to mistake which one has what type of rules so this could definitelly benefit in such a scenario. This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 16/06/2008 07:14:47