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**beetstreet**

not quite like pluto's, but you can see damage probabilities to several decimals and hover capturing stats. the weewar specs page states that hovers have a defense terrain bonus on bases of -1, but actual gameplay doesn't reflect this. though harbors and airfields are correctly stated and reflected at -1.

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B32AFMUrTSpYODZhNGNhMTktY2IzZi00MmUwLWI1YmEtNmNjZjE4NDMxYTBl&sort=name&layout=list&num=50

**Shulgin** · This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 10/06/2011 22:54:20

nice one. great to have a battle calculator for capturing hovercrafts. what makes you think hovercrafts have -1 defence on bases? the specification page, like pluto's, shows no terraine penalty.

edit: looking at your spreadsheet, you actually have 0 for hovers on bases. also nice to have bridges included, that something else missing in pluto's simulator

**beetstreet**

i must have misread something somewhere about the base def penalty for hovers. they have a penalty for airfields and harbors, though.

and strangely, no def penalty is displayed when you rest your cursor over a bridge while a unit is clicked.

**Weeseltown**

hovers have no penalty on repairshops but on bases, harbors and airfields, not sure about bridges.

**Shulgin**

Weeseltown wrote:hovers have no penalty on repairshops but on bases, harbors and airfields, not sure about bridges.

what makes you think they have a penalty on bases, casa? according to the specs page i linked to they don't. no penalty on bridges either

**Casaubon**

oh my bad, I thought they would

**Shulgin**

well maybe they do. i thought you might know something i don't. my understanding is that the values on the specs page are not directly extracted from the code for the calculations,
so there could be typos in the specs tables. i remember spadequack once said he had a look at the actual code to confirm the values for capping hovercrafts...

**beetstreet**

i checked, and hovers do not have a defense penalty on bases nor bridges. though they have a -1 penalty on harbors and airfields.

**Shulgin**

beetstreet wrote:i checked, and hovers do not have a defense penalty on bases nor bridges. though they have a -1 penalty on harbors and airfields.

how did you check?

**beetstreet**

something like this:

http://weewar.com/map/55663

i did a couple rounds of 25 attacks each, and compared what the total actual distribution of damage was to what my excel sheet expects. a -1 penalty is the difference between a 50/50 and 20/60/20 distribution.

10/06/2011 16:40:14 excel battle calculator
beetstreet Heavy Trooper Offline	not quite like pluto's, but you can see damage probabilities to several decimals and hover capturing stats. the weewar specs page states that hovers have a defense terrain bonus on bases of -1, but actual gameplay doesn't reflect this. though harbors and airfields are correctly stated and reflected at -1. https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B32AFMUrTSpYODZhNGNhMTktY2IzZi00MmUwLWI1YmEtNmNjZjE4NDMxYTBl&sort=name&layout=list&num=50
10/06/2011 22:48:25 Re:excel battle calculator
Shulgin Tank Offline	nice one. great to have a battle calculator for capturing hovercrafts. what makes you think hovercrafts have -1 defence on bases? the specification page, like pluto's, shows no terraine penalty. edit: looking at your spreadsheet, you actually have 0 for hovers on bases. also nice to have bridges included, that something else missing in pluto's simulator This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 10/06/2011 22:54:20
11/06/2011 05:30:17 Re:excel battle calculator
beetstreet Heavy Trooper Offline	i must have misread something somewhere about the base def penalty for hovers. they have a penalty for airfields and harbors, though. and strangely, no def penalty is displayed when you rest your cursor over a bridge while a unit is clicked.
11/06/2011 07:49:25 Re:excel battle calculator
Weeseltown Raider Offline	hovers have no penalty on repairshops but on bases, harbors and airfields, not sure about bridges.
11/06/2011 16:39:19 Re:excel battle calculator
Shulgin Tank Offline	Weeseltown wrote:hovers have no penalty on repairshops but on bases, harbors and airfields, not sure about bridges. what makes you think they have a penalty on bases, casa? according to the specs page i linked to they don't. no penalty on bridges either
11/06/2011 18:39:51 Re:excel battle calculator
Casaubon Tank Offline	oh my bad, I thought they would
13/06/2011 17:17:56 Re:excel battle calculator
Shulgin Tank Offline	well maybe they do. i thought you might know something i don't. my understanding is that the values on the specs page are not directly extracted from the code for the calculations, so there could be typos in the specs tables. i remember spadequack once said he had a look at the actual code to confirm the values for capping hovercrafts...
14/06/2011 05:37:30 Re:excel battle calculator
beetstreet Heavy Trooper Offline	i checked, and hovers do not have a defense penalty on bases nor bridges. though they have a -1 penalty on harbors and airfields.
16/06/2011 18:50:43 Re:excel battle calculator
Shulgin Tank Offline	beetstreet wrote:i checked, and hovers do not have a defense penalty on bases nor bridges. though they have a -1 penalty on harbors and airfields. how did you check?
16/06/2011 22:47:22 Re:excel battle calculator
beetstreet Heavy Trooper Offline	something like this: http://weewar.com/map/55663 i did a couple rounds of 25 attacks each, and compared what the total actual distribution of damage was to what my excel sheet expects. a -1 penalty is the difference between a 50/50 and 20/60/20 distribution.